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Post Hole Concrete Guide

How much concrete each fence or deck post hole actually needs by hole size and bag size, when dry pouring works, frost depth rules and a full worked example.

Last updated October 23, 2026. All prices are US ranges checked in October 2026 against published national cost surveys and home center pricing. Your local quotes will vary.

Prices checked October 2026 Free calculator included

Run your own numbers: this guide pairs with our free Fence Calculator. It gives you exact material quantities for your measurements in about ten seconds, using the same rates this guide explains.

The Question Behind Every Fence and Deck Project

Ask a store associate how much concrete a post hole needs and you will get a shrug and a guess, usually two bags, whatever the hole. The real answer is arithmetic: a hole is a cylinder, a bag yields a known volume, and the post itself displaces some of both. Get it right and a fence line goes up in a day with no mid job store run and no pallet of leftover bags fossilizing in the garage. Get it wrong in the other direction and you pay to haul the overage back. This guide gives the yields, the table, and a full fence example, and it pairs with our Fence Calculator, which already includes per post concrete in its material list, and the main Concrete Calculator for converting bigger jobs to cubic yards. Prices referenced are October 2026 national home center pricing: standard mix about $5 to $7 per 80 lb bag, fast setting about $6 to $9 per 50 lb bag.

Start With Yields: What a Bag Actually Makes

Bag sizeYield, mixed and placedTypical price
40 lbAbout 0.30 cubic feet$4 to $6
50 lb fast settingAbout 0.375 cubic feet$6 to $9
60 lbAbout 0.45 cubic feet$5 to $7
80 lbAbout 0.60 cubic feet$5 to $7

The formula is the same one the manufacturers print in their data sheets. Hole volume is pi times the radius squared times the depth, in feet. Subtract the post volume, which for a nominal 4x4 (a true 3.5 by 3.5 inches) is about 0.085 square feet times the buried depth. Divide what remains by the yield per bag and round up, then add a small allowance for holes that bell out at the bottom and soil that caves in. A 12 inch hole is the standard for a 4x4 post: three times the post width gives room for concrete to surround and lock it, and it is the size most power augers are rented to dig.

Bags Per Hole: The Table

Hole (diameter x depth), 4x4 postNet concrete80 lb bags60 lb bags50 lb fast set bags
8 in x 24 inAbout 0.53 cu ft122
10 in x 30 inAbout 1.15 cu ft234
12 in x 36 inAbout 2.10 cu ft456
12 in x 48 in (deep frost country)About 2.80 cu ft578

Two things in this table surprise people. First, depth is expensive: going from 36 to 48 inches adds nearly 40 percent more concrete per hole, which is why frost depth research matters before the auger is rented. Second, hole diameter is the lever you control. Dropping from 12 to 10 inches on a shallow, sheltered fence cuts the bill by almost half, and in firm soil with short fence runs it is a legitimate choice. In loose or sandy soil the wider hole is doing structural work, and the savings are not worth a fence that leans by spring.

Worked Example: A 100 Foot Fence, 14 Posts

Take a 100 foot privacy fence with posts every 8 feet: 13 spaces, 14 posts including both ends. Holes are 12 inches across and 36 inches deep in a moderate climate, with 4x4 posts. Each hole needs about 2.10 cubic feet of concrete, so the line needs 14 times 2.10, about 29.4 cubic feet. In 80 lb bags at 0.60 cubic feet each, that is 49 bags, call it 51 or 52 with the spillage allowance. In 50 lb fast setting bags it is about 79 bags, which is why fast set is a convenience product for a few posts, not a material for a fence line: the same concrete costs roughly twice as much in small bags. At $5 to $7 per 80 lb bag, the concrete bill lands around $250 to $360. Cross the 60 bag line and it is worth a phone call about a ready mix short load or a mixer rental for a day, both of which price against your Saturday.

Technique Notes That Decide How Long Posts Live

  • Gravel bed first: 4 to 6 inches of gravel in the bottom, post set on the gravel, not encased at the base, so end grain can drain.
  • Brace before you pour: every post plumb and braced in both directions before any concrete, mixed or dry, goes in.
  • Crown the top: slope the concrete surface away from the post so water sheds instead of pooling at the wood line.
  • Mind the frost line: hole bottom below local frost depth, plus the gravel bed below that. Heaved posts are dug twice.
  • Gate posts are special: gates concentrate torque. Go a size deeper and wider on hinge posts, or set them in a continuous concrete grade beam with the adjacent post.
  • Deck and structural posts are footings, not fence posts: they follow local code for size and depth and get inspected in most jurisdictions. This guide covers landscape and fence work.

Dry Pour Versus Mixed, Settled Honestly

Dry pouring fast setting mix around a braced fence post, then watering the hole, is manufacturer approved and field proven for fences, mailboxes and signs. It trades a small amount of ultimate strength for a large amount of speed, and for a fence that trade is rational. Mixed concrete wins where loads are real: gate posts, deck footings, pergolas in wind country, and any post a structure depends on. The cost difference between the methods is mostly labor and bag size, not the concrete itself. Choose per post, not per project: many smart fence builds dry pour the line posts and properly mix the corners and gates, where the forces actually live.

Digging Day: Augers, Rocks and the Plan

The concrete math is the easy half; the holes are the work. A two person power auger rents for about $75 to $125 a day in 2026 and turns a 14 hole fence line into a morning, provided the soil cooperates. Rent it after the line is laid out, batter boards set and strings run, and call the utility locating service several working days before any digging, which is free and legally required in most states before mechanized digging. Dig a test hole first: if you hit rock, roots thicker than your wrist, or soil that caves like sugar, the day plan changes, and it is better to know at hole one than hole nine. Keep the auger holes plumb by starting slow and checking against the string, and finish each hole with a hand post hole digger to clean the bottom and bell it slightly if your soil holds a shape. In clay, a few inches of water in a finished hole softens the walls and lets them slump, so dig on the day you set posts or the day before a dry forecast. Set posts the same day the holes are open whenever possible: an open hole is a rain gauge, a trip hazard and a cave in waiting for a schedule.

Cold Weather and Hot Weather Setting

Concrete and weather have opinions about each other. In cold conditions, standard mixes gain strength slowly, and a hard freeze in the first days can damage young concrete in a hole just as on a slab: use fast setting mixes rated for cold, warm the mixing water for hand mixed work, and cover set posts overnight when frost threatens. Post holes forgive more than flatwork because the earth itself insulates, but a hole full of water before a freeze is a post heaved by spring. In hot weather the problem flips: dry soil drinks the water out of mixed concrete before it cures, so pre wet the hole walls, work in the morning, and keep the top of the set concrete damp under a cover for the first day on structural posts. Neither adjustment appears on the bag, which is written for a mild day that rarely attends a fence project. Plan around the forecast the way you planned around the frost line, and the bags per hole table above holds in any season.

Frequently Asked Questions

How many bags of concrete do I need for one fence post?

For the common case, a 4x4 post in a 12 inch diameter hole 36 inches deep, plan on about 4 bags of 80 lb mix, 5 bags of 60 lb, or 6 bags of 50 lb fast setting mix, after subtracting the space the post itself takes up. Shrink the hole to 10 inches diameter and the same post needs roughly 2, 3 and 4 bags. A few bags either way is normal: soil that slumps, a bell shaped bottom and spillage all eat concrete, so buy about one extra bag per five holes and return what you do not open.

How deep should a fence post hole be?

The working rule is a third of the post in the ground, plus 6 inches of gravel at the bottom: a 6 foot fence on an 8 foot post gets a hole about 30 to 36 inches deep once the gravel bed is counted. Your local frost line can override the rule, because the bottom of the hole should sit below frost depth to stop heaving, and in cold states that means 36 to 48 inches. Check the frost depth for your county before you dig, not after the posts are set.

Does dry pouring concrete for posts actually work?

For fence posts, yes, with honest limits. Fast setting mix poured dry around a braced post and then watered soaks and cures in the hole, and manufacturers approve the method for fence and mailbox posts. It saves mixing labor on long fence lines. It is not the method for structural footings, deck posts carrying a structure, or gate posts that take real torque: those get properly mixed and placed concrete. Follow the bag directions for water quantity, and brace every post until the mix takes its initial set.

Should I put gravel at the bottom of the hole?

Yes, about 4 to 6 inches of compacted gravel, and the post should sit on it rather than in a concrete cup at the bottom. The gravel drains water away from the end grain, which is where posts rot first. For the same reason, crown the concrete at the top so it slopes away from the post, and keep soil and mulch from burying the concrete collar later. Drainage decisions at the bottom of the hole decide whether the post lasts 10 years or 25.

Is foam post mix a good alternative to concrete?

Expanding foam post systems work for standard fence and mailbox posts, set in minutes, and one kit replaces roughly two bags of concrete at several times the price per hole. The math favors foam on small jobs far from a hose or where hauling bags is the bottleneck, and favors concrete heavily on a full fence line, where the per hole cost difference multiplies by every post. Foam is also harder to dig out decades later. Know that trade before you commit a whole fence to it.

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